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22nd July 2010, 01:00 AM
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hi
iit is the one of the toughest entrance exam in India for the engineering students,so for selecting in iit first of all you have to clear your basic knowledge about the subjects then you have to study regularly and very hard
the detail of some of the useful books are as follow

For Physics :NCERT and then Arihant
For Chemistry :NCERT and then Arihant
For Maths :RD Sharma or ML Khanna and then arihant
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22nd July 2010, 01:44 AM
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hello,
preparing to be an iitian without the help of any coaching institute is going to be very difficult for you , but its not impossible.it requires exceptionally brilliant mind.i just would like to share with you that i'm currently doing my b.tech from iit , kgp.
some books suggested by me:
for maths ; go for M.L.KHANNA (DO SOLVE IT THROUGHLY, as i did)
for physics; from what ever book you read , it is really important to make the concepts understand really well . solve as many problem as possible
SUGGESTED BOOK ;IRIDOV
for chemistry;practice numerical type questions ,make your organic portion very strong from the beginning it self.

for solving more queries write me.
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22nd July 2010, 02:07 AM
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Hello, don't be frustrate dude, just follow ur text book very throughly. for cracking IITJEE u must follow these book-
Mathematics-R.S.aggarwal,Reskin&bond
Physics- M.L. khanna, I.E.Irodove
Chemistry- O.P.Aggarwal
if u solve out all the workedout problems u'll surely cracked IITJEE.
Oherwise u will join some coaching institutes like Lnc,Resonance,Pathfinder,FIITJEE.....etc......All The Best!!!!!!!!11
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dear friends
when you are in 11th class, only concentrate on your basics. Make one text book like i made ncert for physics and chemistry and r d sharma for maths. but at same time follow other books also try solving few multiple choice questions everyday. make it your habit. never think it completely depends upon institute only,its ones own dedication and trust on teachers. Going to kota,delhi etc is the not only way. One can achieve his aim at home only. Join various correspondence as much as you can solve. Keep your homework up to the date. there is no restriction on sitting hours one can sit as much as he feels are sufficient. but things must be done. initially it will take time to complete your homework but soon it will decrease. do play to keep mind healthy and fresh. give as many tests as one can. Join various test series. Of all, most important thing is REVISION. revise as much couse as you can as many times as possible. its not necessary to complete syllabus but whatever you do just final it and bring it to your fingertips. Near the exam time never go for new things just revise what you know. solve previous years jee solved papers. Consult your teachers for problems you face.Never hesitate. Its your hardwork and your ability to make things happening. all tha best.
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22nd July 2010, 02:14 PM
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iam studying XI. how should i prepare for IIT engineering entrance exam? i am not rsady to go to clas. so please tell me the books which should be reffered by me. and i also need the perfect web adress to guide me. please help me. i should be an engineer from IIT.
What you need to do is that you should immediately join a good coaching institute like Resonance,career point,vibrant academy,Bansal or pathfinder.
The institute will provide you study materials for the preparation.
You just need to work hard.
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22nd July 2010, 05:24 PM
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hai
Some books for IIT-JEE are:
Physics: H.C.Verma
Chemistry: O.P.Agarwal, J.D.Lee
Maths: M.L.Khanna
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23rd July 2010, 06:04 PM
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some of the books for physics are:
1.h c verma
2.ncert
3.g d agarwal
4.dev mukherjee.
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you must have to be very serious about it then do not take any chapter lightly and be serious about studies and try to make your basics very clear..study for at lest 8 hours a day...you need a lot of hard work....do not worry you have enough time and books.for physics hc verma and tmh are the best booksb for maths k das gupta and arihant publications are the best and for chemistry
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Hello,

All IIT aspirants must work hard really hard.
You can refer to the following books:

Chemistry--->NCERT and pradeeps
Physics--->NCERT and arihant
Maths--->NCERT and R.D.Sharma

Besides it would be best if you coaching institutes that provide IIT coaching such as:

1.FITJEE
2.AKAASH
3.BANSAL
4.BRILLIANT TUTORIALS

Good Luck!
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iam studying XI. how should i prepare for IIT engineering entrance exam? i am not rsady to go to clas. so please tell me the books which should be reffered by me. and i also need the perfect web adress to guide me. please help me. i should be an engineer from IIT.


dear arun
its good look you are seeking for iitjee in xi , it shows your sincearty .
yo can refer this all books for this.



chem.

physical: rc mukhergy
organic: o p tondon .
inorganic: o p tondon or arihant.

physics: h\ c verma, arihant, erodove.

maths: k c sinha, arihant,



and for more preference you can practice fiitjee papers and materials.


these are enogh for yo , jst work hard and be reglar in studies, thats only help you to get in iitjee......



with best wishes
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14th August 2010, 12:52 AM
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dear frnd,

as you know IITs exams are one of the toughest exam.

so do hard labour from now.

at first follow your text books then you can practise from these books..

physics by H C VERMA.

che by RC MUKHERJEE,OP TANDON.

maths by KC SINHA, DAS GUPTA.

etc.

you can take help of following sites...

website for sample papers-

1-www.iitjee.org/iit-question-papers/iit-papers.html


2-www.iitjee.org/iit-question-papers/iit-chemistry-paper-1

all d best.
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15th August 2010, 10:46 PM
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the name of selected book are following:
1.abd publication
2.hc verma
3.s.chand
4.dinesh of mathematics
5.R.D sharma of mathematis and also prefer ncert books in 10+2 level
because these book helpful for iit exam.....
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16th August 2010, 12:31 AM
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dear friend,
There are so many books available in market for IIT.
But i would like to suggest you to go through the correspondence course offer by many renowned institute like:
FIIT-JEE
Brilliant tutorial
Aakash institute
Career point kota

just take registration in any one of them.
& prepare for IIT-JEE very well.

good luck.
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hi iam priyanka .help me to buy iit -jee books contact ;02163222805
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Dear friend,
the first and the foremost thing that you need for IIT is you need to do a lot of hard work with full dedication and proper time management.you can also join various coaching institute.the books that you can read are of arihant publications.
Wish You All The Best!
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23rd August 2010, 02:17 AM
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dear friend,

you can get selected in IIT by doing hard labour.as it is a very tough exam.


at first make command on your 11th books.then make command over your 12th syllabus.

you can also join any good coaching like fitjee, narayna academy, bansal classes, career point kota etc.

you can read following books..

Maths
by kc sinha

maths by das gupta

maths by s l loney.


Physics by H.C. Verma
Problems in physics by I.E. Irodov
Resnick and Halliday
ELECRICITY AND MAGNETISM
Resnick and Halliday
Problems in physics by I.E. Irodov
OPTICS
Physics by H.C. Verma
MODERN PHYSICS
Physics by H.C. Verma
Problems in Physics by I.E. Irodov
HEAT AND WAVES
Physics by H.C. Verma
Resnick and Halliday
Chemistry

ORGANIC CHEMISTRY
Morrison & Boyd
Solutions to Morrison Boyd
INORGANIC CHEMISTRY
NCERT Inorganic Chemistry
Concise Inorganic Chemistry by J.D. Lee
IIT Chemistry by O.P. Aggarwal
GENERAL CHEMISTRY
J.D. Lee
O.P. Aggarwal
R.C.Mukerjee

all the best.
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23rd August 2010, 05:07 PM
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dear friend...
for IIT you may take admission in IIT jee coaching classes who will seen you the right path to get selected in IIT jee exam. name of the coaching classes for IIT jee are
fittjee
gurukul in delhi
bansal
aakash
brillient
pie and many more

you can also get selected in IIT jee by self study.........in case of self study you must get study material from these coaching institutes that will helps you very much...................
you can get arihant publication book for physics , chemistry and math .
name of the writer of other IIT BOOKS are
H C VERMA (FOR PHYSICS)
R C MUKHERJEE (FOR PHYSICAL CHEMISTRY)
O P TANDON (FOR INOGANIC CHEMISTRY)
MORRISION BOYED (FOR ORGANIC CHEMISTRY)
K C SINHA (FOR MATH)
S L LONY (FOR MATH)
R K GUPTA (FOR ORGANIC CHEMISTRY)


BEST OF LUCK........................................
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23rd August 2010, 06:16 PM
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HI

Simple efforts with sincerity and honesty will help you crack IIT..IIT is a very tough exam to crack...you have to put in a lot of efforts for the 2 years both 11th and 12th..Prepare for the entrance right from the beginning...If possible give time to certain good coaching classes...That will help to solve your problems..and doubts...Try solving previous years' question papers also..

I havee sent you a link...IT might help you

http://www.iitjee.org/iit-question-p...it-papers.html

Good Luck !!
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dear friend

IIT exam is one of the toughest exams for technical studies.

for this you have to work very hard as well as smartly.

you should follow the right path for it.

you can join good coaching centers like Aakash institute,Career point and many more.

you should follow the following ways

1.study your NCERT text books throughly

2. practice a lots of objective questions

3.you should plan well for time management

4 you should follow the following books like

physics- h.c verma
chemistry-o.p tandon
maths- r.d sharma

you can check the website given

www.iitjee.org/iit-question-papers/iit-papers.html

all the best.
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dear friend,

IIT is very tough exam, for cracking this type of exam coaching classes is very helpful.. as you don't want to join in any coaching classes, so you have to prepare yourself very well..
there are the name of some books which you can follow for IIT preparation like-for mathematics prepare from dasguptha,S.N Dey.organic chemistry follow morrison and boyd,inorgonic chemistry p.l soni,o p tandon .for physics you can follow H C VERMA.

you have to do hard work to crack the IIT exam.. if you have that much of potential then get prepare for the exam ...

all the best..
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basically keep your focus on selected topics and see thoroughly previous year papers and basically se NCERT books these are best for short time preparation
HI MYSELF FABIO...THER ARE VARIOUS RESOURCE AVAILABLE ONLINE LIKE I SAW A WEBSITE http://www.iitgurus.com/....ther are offering free study bank to downaload....and material is quite good
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Nothing in this world can stop me from getting to IIT Delhi
I am not gonna waste even a minute of my IIT JEE preparation
In class 11th
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13th September 2010, 01:01 AM
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HI!

Hard work, determination & right strategy will help you to get selected for the engineering courses offered by IITs through its IIT-JEE exam.

Some useful strategies for cracking IIT JEE exam are:

Have a strong hold of the fundamentals.
Selection of right books & study materials.
Try to solve model papers based on latest exam pattern.
Analyze result, find out the weak areas & try to overcome those weak areas.
Regular practice is the only key to success in any exam.

Reference books for IIT-JEE exam:

NCERT PCM books of class 11th & 12th

chemistry - Arihant Prakashan
O.P. Tandon

Maths - R. S. Agarwal
M. L. Khanna, J. N. Sharma

physics - H.C. Verma
I.E. Irodov
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hai i am now studying in iit bombay and i got 32nd AIR i have read only the following books

i recommend narayana iit institute

physics ; h c verma is enough

chemistry ; o p agarwal { jpnp publications}

maths ; m l khanna {jpnp publications}

these books are enough for cracking iit jee
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THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION.
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i m presently enrolled in a coaching institute. i am presently performing average there. i m in 11th. pls guide me on the amount of hard work per day, and the books for chemistry.are there tricks to crack exams of these high magnitude.

pls reply.
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iam studying XI. how should i prepare for IIT engineering entrance exam? i am not rsady to go to clas. so please tell me the books which should be reffered by me. and i also need the perfect web adress to guide me. please help me. i should be an engineer from IIT.
You need to have clear concepts of every topic before going through any books.Most of the conceptual ques are asked in JEE.
Focus on your XI and XII couses properly,go through the NCERT books thoroughly.
Especially for JEE the books are:
physics-H.C.Verma (part-I and II)
chemistry-O.P.Tandon
maths-TMH publication
Apart from this after completing your syllabus have a question bank of Arihant publication for practice.

good luck!!!
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iam studying XI. how should i prepare for IIT engineering entrance exam? i am not rsady to go to clas. so please tell me the books which should be reffered by me. and i also need the perfect web adress to guide me. please help me. i should be an engineer from IIT.
I would suggest you to go for KAYSONS EDUCATION, here you will get complete study material, Books, DVDs. They also provide online coaching that include video lessons, objective test series, Assignments, Solutions of test series and Assignments etc. Here, you can also ask any question or problem related to the various subjects and their online solutions would be available to you. I found their services quite satisfactory and thats why suggesting to you, their web address is: http://www.kaysonseducation.co.in
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how to get M.Sc in physics from I.I.T.? how can I get selected?
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i am studying my b.sc maths i have do my MCA in iit so what i want to do for that
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hello friends

there are lot of ways in which you can do your best in the JEE exam

by preparing on your own you should be very carefull

every step you take will effect in your exam

you should attempt very confidently in your exam

preparation plan should be according to you nobody can prepare a best plan than yourself so prepare a good plan and stick to it

and books to refer

for chemistry you should be with MSR publications
and ncert books will also fetch you very good percentage

for physics you should refer H C Verma

for maths all the books should be glanced once

all the best

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sit in the iit jee entrance exam and bring rank upto about 6000 then u can get into the iitjee
preparations books are arihant in physics ,chemistry and maths.......
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iam studying XI. how should i prepare for IIT engineering entrance exam? i am not rsady to go to clas. so please tell me the books which should be reffered by me. and i also need the perfect web adress to guide me. please help me. i should be an engineer from IIT.
You can prepare from NCERT books.

Apart from these here I am specifying some books that helps you to strengthen your concepts.

Mathematics:
1. Course in mathematics for IIT-JEE(TMH) Publications.
2. Geometry by Goyal-Arihanth Publications.

Physics:
1. Concepts of Physics by H.C.Verma( Volume I and II)-Bharati Bhawan Publishers and Distributors.
2. Interactive Physics by Kamaraju and Ravi

Chemistry:
1. Organic Chemistry by Jr.Wade L.G-Low Price Edition
2. Inorganic Chemistry by O.P.Tandon-G.R.Bathla and Sons Publishers
3. Physical Chemistry by R.S.Agarwal
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iam studying XI. how should i prepare for IIT engineering entrance exam? i am not rsady to go to clas. so please tell me the books which should be reffered by me. and i also need the perfect web adress to guide me. please help me. i should be an engineer from IIT.
Dear friend,
clear your concept in your science subject,
solve previous years questions,
practice some of sample papers with time...
best of luck...
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if i m in a well known coaching institute then is it necessary for me to study other books very much?
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is it important to study books apart from the materials provided by resonance?
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heyyy please help me my organic section is very poor.......... and my physics is also not very gud.........help help......
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Hello,

Make one thing clear. IIT is not a piece of cake that everyone can eat it.
It requires a lot of hard work and a good preparation then only you stand a chance to get selected.
Dont be a fool and not go to class. You need to attend classes to get your basics clear.I agree self study is a good thing but at times does not help you require good guidance as well.

Anyway, coming to the books, i must say that you should refer to the following books.These books are the best among the others available as theycover your syllabus and provide understanding of the text in a simple language.



Physics:
*H.C.Verma(A Must)
*NCERT(A Must)
*Arihant Publication

Mathematics:
*R.D.Sharma and R.S.Agarwal(A Must)
*M.L.Khanna(A Must Must)

Chemistry:
*NCERT(A Must)
*O.P.Agarwal

The books are available in leading book stores.
You can purchase them through the internet too and get attractive discounts on them.

Also, make sure you practice a lot of sample paper and give mock tests to assess your preparation.

You may also consider to join a coaching institute who provide expert coaching in IIT preparation.

Good Luck!!
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dear

IITJEE is a very prestigious exam therefore it is tricky

it is not like it is very hard it is just tricky and check your basics and some advance part so best thing is study from deep mind do not mug up the things
and learn basics

about books
there are many books available in the market
for physics HC VERMA
for inorganic JD LEE
and for physical and organic arihant

refer these books these will surely help you
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I have attached syllabus for it.You can refer it for the preparation.You need to work hard to get in IIT.Your marks should be above 90%.Study hard and prepare well.

Yes you can get into IIT by clearing the exam but you need to have above 90% and above marks in IIT.Clearing is not enough,You need get good grades.I have attached the syllabus for it.Prepare well.

I have syllabus for it that i have attached.You can refer it properly for the preparation.

Its a exam for getting admission in IIT.For complete information for the syllabus i have attached the syllabus for it.You can refer it well.

Its good that you are appearing for iit exams.For the preparation i have attached the syllabus for it.You can refer it.Prepare it well.

Well i would suggest you that you try for only one exam at a time.Better go for iiy.For the preparation of this exam i have attached the syllabus for it.You can refer it.You can refer to books like R.S.Agrawal.

Its good that you have decide to join IIT after your 12th.For the preparation i have attached the syllabus for it.Prepare it well.

Well its good that you are aiming to join IIT.For that you need to write exam for the admission and have to score grades above 90%.For the reference i have attached the syllabus for it.Prepare well.


Well there is no short cuts to clear for this exam.You need to work really hard and its one of the tuft-est exam.You have to prepare well for it.You have to go through proper channel.You can do it don't worry.

Hello,
Its good that you want to join IIT.You can refer to books like HC VERMA for physics,for inorganic JD LEE and for physical and organic arihant.Prepare well for it and its quite tuft also.

You can refer to books like HC VERMA for physics,for inorganic JD LEE and for physical and organic arihant.Prepare well for it and you can make it through.You can refer to 6 till 12 syllabus also.

Well its good that you want to join IIT.Well since you are in XI standard you can prepare for it now itself.I have attached the syllabus for it and the books you can refer to it is HC VERMA for physics,for inorganic JD LEE and for physical and organic arihant.Prepare well for it,you can make it through.

Yes you can prepare for iit within 8 months if you are really serious and devoted towards it.You can refer to the books like HC VERMA for physics,for inorganic JD LEE and for physical and organic arihant.Best wishes.
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12th February 2011, 10:25 PM
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hello friend,
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Worried about IIT , Books and preparations !!!

Well friend, Being an IIT aspirant should not worried about silly questions, you need to be more mature,

You need to boos yourself and have to concentrate your mind towards IIT JEE preparations only , Then only you can crack IIT JEE.

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Because it helps a lot, Studied at coaching institute and repeated practice @ home will definitely pay's off...

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please me the name of preparation books of iit so that i can be selected in iit
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nw i m in class 12 hw 2 prepare
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I NEED THE SOLUTIONS FOR THE BOOK MATHEMATICS IIT JEE ARIHANT BY S K GOYAL TO PREPARE
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i jst want to have strong grip in basics for all subjects.............so which are the textbooks help to boost my basics..........and even i want some more tips to get prepared for d xam..........am in 12th right nw.........so plz help me friends..........
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i am weak in physics, but my favourite subject is physics. my physics is weak due to hard english words and terms used. please can u suggest me an easy simple language book for physics. please help me.
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my father is a labourer. i cannot afford joining a institute. i wanna be an aeronautical engineer from iit. i am presently in XI. please help me by suggesting me some other ways to crack iit.
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