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3rd December 2009, 03:16 PM
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Best colleges for commercial pilot training? fee structure, placements and exam dates


i want to know the best colleges for commercial pilot training, their fee structure , placement, their entrance test dates. how much will i earn. i m a student of 12th





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10th December 2009, 01:19 PM
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followings are the best institutes for acuiring cpl :-

rajiv gandhi rastriya uran academy ( IGRUA) : admission through PAT and candidate should be medically fit.

COURSE FEES :17lacs.only.www.igrua.gov.in

horizon aviation academy pvt.ldt.www.horizoncal.com
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10th December 2009, 09:09 PM
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The best colleges in india are:
Indira Gandhi Rashtriya Academy at Rae Bareli
Academy of Carver Aviation Pvt. Ltd,
Andhra Pradesh Flying Club,
Assam Flying Club,
Bangalore Aeronautics Technical Services,
Mysore Aerodrome in Karnataka,
Flying Club in Indore,
Flytech Aviation Academy and West Bengal Flying Training Institute.
Eligibility criteria will be atleast 50% marks in Physics and Mathematics and should be over 17 years of age.
In Indira Gandhi Rashtriya Uran Akademi the fees is above Rs 16 lakh for CPL+PPL. The 18-month CPL course for those who already have a PPL costs Rs 12 lakh plus.

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these are some institutes
Assam Flying Club,
Bangalore Aeronautics Technical Services,
Mysore Aerodrome in Karnataka,
Flying Club in Indore,
Flytech Aviation Academy and West Bengal Flying Training Institute. etc

follow this site
http://www.indiaedu.com/career-courses/commercial-pilot-institutes/
for details

good luck
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5th January 2010, 09:58 PM
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more information on this website--http://www.scholarshipsinindia.com/pilot_training_schools_in_india.html

List of Flying Clubs in India

State-owned

Indira Gandhi Rashtriya Udan Akademi, Rae Bareilly, Uttar Pradesh
Andhra Pradesh Aviation Academy, Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh
Amritsar Aviation Club, Amritsar, Punjab
Bihar Flying Institute, Patna, Bihar
Bombay Flying Club, Mumbai, Maharashtra
Gujarat Flying Club, Vadodara, Gujarat
Government. Flying Training Institute, Bhubaneshwar, Orissa
Government Flying Training Institute, Kolkata, West Bengal
Government. Flying Training School, Bangalore, Karnataka
Haryana Institute of Civil Aviation, Karnal, Haryana
Haryana Institute of Civil Aviation, Hissar, Haryana
Haryana Institute of Civil Aviation, Pinjore, Haryana
Ludhiana Aviation Club, Ludhiana, Punjab
Madhya Pradesh Flying Club, Indore, Madhya Pradesh
Madhya Pradesh Flying Club, Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh
Madras Flying Club, Chennai, Tamil Nadu
Northern India Flying Club, Jallandhar, Punjab
Patiala Aviation Club, Patiala, Punjab
Rajasthan State Flying School, Jaipur, Rajasthan
UP State Flying Training Institute, Kanpur, Uttar Pradesh
Andaman & Nicobar Flying Training Institute, Port Blair, Andaman & Nicobar Islands
Assam Flying Club, Guwahati, Assam
Banasthali Vidyapith Gliding and Flying Club, Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu
Aviation Training Academy, Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu
Delhi Flying Club, New Delhi
Kerala Aviation Training Centre, Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala
Nagpur Flying Club, Nagpur, Maharashtra
Jamshedpur Cooperative Flying Club, Jamshedpur, Jharkhand
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Training Centres in India :

1. Academy of Carver Aviation Pvt. Ltd. 201/202, Comet, Opp Bandra Talao, Turner Road, Bandra (W), Mumbai – 400050 India. Website : www.carveraviation.com Tel: +91-22-2642 0138
2. Andhra PRadesh Flying Club, Begumpet Airport, Hyderabad.
3. Assam Flying Club, Guwahati Airport, Guwahati-7.
4. Bangalore Aeronautics Technical Services, Mysore Aerodrome, Karnataka.
5. Bihar Flying Institute, Civil Aerodrome, Patna-1.
6. Chimes Aviation Academywww.caaindia.com
7. Coimbatore Flying Club, Civil Aerodrome, Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu.
8. Faculty of Flight Safety Services, Delhi Flying Club Ltd. Safdarjang Airport, New Delhi-110 003.
9. Flying Club, Civil Aerodrome, Indore-452 005, MP.
10. Flytech Aviation Academy, 102, AI-Kauser, Road No. 10, West Maredpally, Secunderabad-500 026.
11. Government Aviation Training Institute, Civil Aerodrome, Bhubaneshwar.
12. Government Flying Training School, Jakkur Aerodrome, Yelahanka Post, Bangalore-560 064.
13. Gujarat Flying Club, Civil Aerodrome, Hasni Road, Baroda-390 006, Gujarat.
14. Indira Gandhi Rashtriya Uran Akademi, Fursatganj Airfield, Rea Bareli-229 302, Uttar Pradesh.
15. Jamshedpur Co-operative Flying Club Ltd. Sonari Aerodrome, Jamshedpur, Bihar.
16. Ludhiana Aviation Club, Civil Aerodrome, PO Sahnswal, Ludhiana, Punjab.
17. Nagpur Flying Club, Sonegaon Aerodrome, Nagpur, MAharashtra.
18. Orient Flight School, Adminstrative Office 40, GST Road, St. Thomas Mount, Chennai-600 016,
Operations at Civil Aerodrome, Pondicherry -605 008.
19. Sahara India Aviation Academy 249/250, Block A, Road No.6, National Highway No. 8, Mahipalpur (Near I.G International Airport) New Delhi-110037.
20. The Bombay Flying Club, Juhu Aerodrome, Juhu, Mumbai-400 049.
21. Udan Flying School, Indore-452 005, Madhya Pradesh.
22. West Bengal Flying Training Institute, Behala, Calcutta-700 060.
23. Career Aviation, #102 VBF Plaza, Airport Road, Bangalore - 560 008 Website : www.careersaviation.com
24. Chimes Aviation Academy (CAA),Dhana Airstrip, PO Dhana,Sagar, MP, India 470 228 ,Phone Numbers : 07582-308100,98736 62370 ,Email:[email protected] Website: www.caaindia.com
25. AeronautX Flight Training, 402 Belfer, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India 400,050 Tel: +91.98190.19098 Website:www.AeronautX.in

Useful Links
Indian Pilot Training - www.indianpilot.com

3. American Flying Academy - www.americanflying.com

4. West London Aero Club - www.wlac.co.uk

5. Airline Pilot Training - www.cptprogram.org

6. Basair Australia Professional Flight Training - www.basair.com

7. International Airline Training Academy,Inc - www.flyiata.com

8. Joint Aviation Authorities (JAA) Europe - www.pilotgroundtraining.com

9. Air Fleet Training School - www.airfleettraining.com

10. Discounted Pilot Supplies - www.mypilotstore.com

11.Touchwood Aviation Academy www.touchwoodaviation.com

12. www.arenaaviation.com.au

13. www.australianaviationtraining.com
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6th February 2010, 10:25 PM
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The eligibility criteria for pilot training will be atleast 50% marks in Physics and Mathematics and should be over 17 years of age.

Kerala Aviation Training Centre, Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala
Indira Gandhi Rashtriya Academy at Rae Bareli
Academy of Carver Aviation Pvt. Ltd,
Delhi Flying Club, New Delhi
Andhra Pradesh Flying Club,
Assam Flying Club,
Bangalore Aeronautics Technical Services,
Mysore Aerodrome in Karnataka,
Flying Club in Indore,
Madras Flying Club, Chennai, Tamil Nadu
Flytech Aviation Academy and West Bengal Flying Training Institute.
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[QUOTE=RIKASH;3261]i want to know the best colleges for commercial pilot training, their fee structure , placement, their entrance test dates. how much will i earn. i have passed out my twelth .kindly inform me about this.
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commercial pilot training costs more than 15 lakhs .. you can earn an average of 1 lakh per month
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i want to know the eligibility for commercial Piolet Training & what version they require for Eye?

What is the height & Wight Criteria ?

What is the best collages in Maharashtra for the same ?

& What is the fees Structure For that ?
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Aero-Sports, Thrissur ( Kerala )
Opposite Devamatha Church, Shoranur Road , Thrissur ( Thrissur Dist. )- 680022
Phone : 0487-3252449
E-mail : Contact 1

American Flyers (India) Pvt.Ltd, Gurgaon( Haryana )
37, Virwani Industrial Estate, Western Express Highway , Gurgaon ( Gurgaon Dist. ) - 400063

Amritsar Aviation Club, Amritsar( Punjab )
Raja Sansi Airport, Civil Aerodrome , Amritsar ( Amritsar Dist. )

Andhra Pradesh Flying Club, Hyderabad( Andhra Pradesh )
Hyderabad Airport , Hyderabad ( Hyderabad Dist. ) - 500011

Assam Flying Club, Guwahati( Assam )
Lokapriya Gopinath Bordoloi International Airport, Borjhar , Guwahati ( Kamrup (Guwahati) Dist. ) - 781015

Bats Aviation Academy, Bangalore( Karnataka )
61 Cambridge Rd, Ulsoor , Bangalore ( Bangalore (Bengaluru) Dist. ) - 560008

Bihar Flying Institute, Patna( Bihar )
Civil Aerodrome , Patna ( Patna Dist. )

Bombay Flying Club, Mumbai( Maharashtra )
Juhu Aerodrome (Pawan Hans), Juhu , Mumbai ( Mumbai Dist. ) - 400049

Flying Training Institute, Kolkata( West Bengal )
Transport Deptt., Behala , Kolkata ( Kolkata Dist. ) - 700060

Government Flying Training School, Bangalore( Karnataka )
Jakkur Aerodrome, Bellary Road, Yelahanka Post , Bangalore ( Bangalore (Bengaluru) Dist. ) - 560064

Gujarat Flying Club, Vadodara( Gujarat )
The Civil Aerodrome, Harni Road , Vadodara ( Vadodara (Baroda) Dist. ) - 390022

Hisar Aviation Club, Hisar( Haryana )
Textile Road, Sirsa Bypass , Hisar ( Hisar Dist. ) - 125002

Jamshedpur Co-operative Flying Club, Jamshedpur( Jharkhand )
Sonari Aerodrome , Jamshedpur ( East Singhbhum Dist. ) - 831011

Ludhiana Aviation Club, Ludhiana( Punjab )
Civil Aerodrome, Post Office Sahnewal , Ludhiana ( Ludhiana Dist. ) - 141120

Madhya Pradesh Flying Club, Indore( Madhya Pradesh )
Devi Ahilyabai Holkar Airport, Civil Aerodrome , Indore ( Indore Dist. ) - 452005
go to the institutes website you will definitely find those fees structures....
good luck....
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sir i wanted to is there is good placement for commercial pilot at present. and i wanted to about which is good iaf pilot or commercial pilot . and i also want to know about application form and dates of entrances exam
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sir Is there chance of getting job in CPL pilot nowadays?
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dear sir i want the details of commercial pilot training course fees in low cost. please send my mail id [email protected]
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[QUOTE=Unregistered;68236]how much IGIA will cost for a CPL course[/QUOTE


TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN.
I want to know the fees structure of learning aviation for the whole semisters.
i would also kindly request to know the qualifications you need for someone to join the in the institution. i have finished high school recently and i want to study aviation and become a pilot.
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can a person become a pilot after doing commerce?
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sir i wanted to is there is good placement for commercial pilot at present. and i wanted to about which is good iaf pilot or commercial pilot . and i also want to know about application form and dates of entrances exam
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We are candaian based acacdemy and we provides CPL training. For further enquiries pl contact on 0810311527.

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i wanted to know about the Commercial Pilot Training from canada/ USA/ UK. Please provide right information and contact me on 9810311527.

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sir i wanted to know the phon no.and the web sit of any kolkata's fling club





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dear friend

These are some Best colleges for commercial pilot training in india, So please
check these institutes-


Sahara India Aviation Academy, delhi

Flytech Aviation Academy, Andhra Pradesh

Assam Flying Club, Guwahati Airport, Guwahati

Academy of Carver Aviation Pvt. Ltd. , mumbai

Orient Flight School, Tamil Nadu

Indira Gandhi Rashtriya Uran Akademi, Uttar Pradesh

Government Aviation Training Institute, Civil Aerodrome, Bhubaneshwar

Sahara India Aviation Academy, New Delhi.
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hello sir, i have scored less than 50% in maths but above 70%in physics. so will i get admission in any of the above mentioned institute?
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List of best colleges for commercial pilot training --
• Asiatic International Aviation Academy, Indore
• A.H.A. Air Hostess Academy Private Limited, Hyderabad
• Academy of Aerospace and Aviation, Indore
• Acumen School of Pilot Training, New Delhi
• Air Hostess Academy (A.H.A.), New Delhi
• Airsonic Training Academy , Panaji
• Astro Professional Academy Pvt. Ltd., Udaipur
• Aviationbaba Aero Services Private Limited, New Delhi
• Bird Academy (Bird Education Society for Travel and Tourism), New Delhi
• Blue Diamond Aviation, Pune
• Bombay Flying Club, Mumbai
• Chimes Aviation Academy (C.A.A.) , Sagar
• Delhi Flying Club : School of Aviation Science and Technology, New Delhi
• Flytech Aviation Academy, Secunderabad
• Frankfinn Institute of Air Hostess Training (F.I.A.T.), Andheri (W)
• Frankfinn Institute of Air Hostess Training (F.I.A.T.), Chennai
• Global Institute of Flight Kare and Management, New Delhi
• Government Aviation Training Institute (G.A.T.I.), Gurgaon
• Gujarat Flying Club, Vadodara
• Haryana Institute of Civil Aviation, Karnal
• Indian Aviation Academy (I.A.A.), Andheri (W)
• Indian Institute of Hospitality Management, Thane
• Indira Gandhi Institute of Aeronautics, Chandigarh
• Indraprasth Institute of Aeronautics, Gurgaon
• Inflight Airways Training Pvt. Ltd., Varanasi
• International School of Aviation (I.S.A.), New Delhi
• K.C.P.I. (Kulpvriksh Career Planners Institute), New Delhi
• Kairali Aviation (P) Ltd., Bangalore
• Kompass Aviation, Mumbai
• M.P.T.I. (India), Kolkata
• Madhya Pradesh Flying Club, Indore
• Newtech International Academy, Chennai
• Orient Flight School, Chennai
• Rajiv Gandhi Academy for Aviation Technology, Thiruvananthapuram
• Rajiv Gandhi Aviation Academy (R.G.A.A.), Hyderabad
• Sinhgad Technical Education Society’s Sinhgad Institute of Aviation and Hospitality Management, Pune
• Sristys Aviation, Hyderabad
• Stealth Aviation consultancy Pvt Ltd , Chennai
• T.M.T. Aviation School, Indore
• Tata Nagar Aviation Private Limited, Jamshedpur
• Trade-Wings Institute of Management (T.I.M.), Mumbai
• Trade-Wings Institute of Management Ltd, Kolkata
• TransAsia Aviation, New Delhi
• Vasundhara Aviation Academy, Bhopal
• Vertex Aviation and Hospitality Academy, Haldwani
• Vertex Aviation and Hospitality Academy, New Delhi
• Virgin Paradise Airlines Training Private Limited, Bhilai
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What is the height & weight require for CPL course?
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which one is better.cpl in U.S.A. By an indian academy or from govt. Training institute.plz tell me.
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i am a b.tec student, i am interested to take cpl. sir, can you plz suggest the best college in india and the fee stucture and also the period required to complete the course.
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I'm doing b.tech,but i'm interested to take cpl,
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hello sir, i have scored less than 50% in maths but above 70%in physics. so will i get admission in any of the above mentioned institute?
NO you may get an admission because minimum criteria is you should be above 17 and should have 50% or above in physics and mathematics!
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The entrance test for a Private Pilot License course is taken on subjects like English, General Knowledge, Mathematics, Physics and Chemistry!

As most the people are keen on knowing the requirements of eye vision..
here we have
1.the pre-operative refraction must not have exceeded +5 to -8

2.an assessment by an eye specialist will be required.

3.stability of refraction must be achieved. To show this you will need to obtain a report showing your refraction about a month before your medical exam.

4.you must have no problems with glare.
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i want to know the best colleges for commercial pilot training, their fee structure , placement, their entrance test dates. how much will i earn. i m a student of 12th
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Can you give website address of Banglore Aeronatics Technical Services in Mysore aerodrum,Karnataka
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can any body tell me a CPL holder can Join INDIN AIR FORCE but he wear glass of power (-2.5D)
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9th September 2010, 03:02 PM
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sir ihave got 41 in maths and 62 physics
could i get admission in any institute for pilot training
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24th October 2010, 10:14 PM
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Is there any scholarship for nepalese in india in pilot course?plz reply me on [email protected] i m ramjee yadav frm ndpal.
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1st November 2010, 07:33 PM
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current fee for totlal pilot trining course at indira gandhi rashtriya uran academy
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13th November 2010, 06:33 AM
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i finished my 10th this past year and i got 91% thats 453 marks board exam and now im doing 11th. I hve an interest iin doing pilot can pls tell me what will be how much fees and also accommadation
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13th November 2010, 11:16 AM
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Respected Sir ,
I am a graduate female in B.Sc computer science with Agge 70% .Please do tell me every thing about how to become a pilot its eligibility, best institutions , fee structure , job placement , exams , training period , promotion after being a pilot etc.
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is igrua gives 100% placement
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