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1st November 2010, 03:54 PM
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Are entrance tests sufficient to measure students' capabilities?


Is entrance exam alone is enough to test a student in choosing his engineering studies?





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1st November 2010, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: Are entrance tests sufficient to measure students' capabilities?

Though entrance exams are very important in themselves to measure the theoretical knowledge of the basic subjects of the student bu t they alone are not sufficient to measure the student's capabilities because other than the theoretical knowledge one needs some other skills also to pursue any career eithe its engineering or any other.
those skills can be communicational, general awareness, etc. and they can be measured through different activities like Group Discussions, HR interviews.
In this manner the overall personality of a student can be measured and also the skills which are required in that particular field.
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1st November 2010, 07:57 PM
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i personally dont think that the entrance exam measures the students capabilities and talent. i have seen so many people who are so talented but they fail to clear the exam such as iit and aieee. this is because they loose their concentration during 2 or 3 hours of exam . so only on the basis of these 2 or 3 hours we cant predict the student.
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1st November 2010, 11:36 PM
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yup offcourse, in many cases, but some times, luck may take "blund students" in to selected students.
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1st November 2010, 11:37 PM
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Is entrance exam alone is enough to test a student in choosing his engineering studies?
no it is nt necessary always dat if a child clears the entrance exam he/she is very much capable n if a child does nt clears the entrance exam he does nt knw have any knowledge..it depends on his/her creativity . on his caliber nt jst clearing entrance...
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2nd November 2010, 10:24 AM
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Dear friend

Most of the students face immense pressure during competitive exams......so they generally cant perform upto the mark.....so these entrance exams cant check the students ability completely.........
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2nd November 2010, 04:28 PM
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No,entrance test are the GATE for the meritorious students to enter into their field of choice and learn more to get success.But they alone are not sufficient.one must make a good practice also in their subject.without practice in engineering makes HIM only a bookworm as science is a practical subject.As more HE practice ,the better HE perform to get success.
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2nd November 2010, 04:42 PM
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i cant say absolutely, upto 50% we can measure students talent in entrance exams...
especially in iit's and all negative marks containing exams we can expect 70-80% to evaluate students talent and his performance
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2nd November 2010, 05:40 PM
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I think entrance tests are sufficient to measure students capabilities.
It is the best way to judge on the basis of student performance in the test.
If student have ability to clear test then he is good for that case or job or anything regarding that.
There are other crieteria's like acedemic records, previous experiance and background should be included in evaluation.
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2nd November 2010, 06:39 PM
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Dear
entrance test is not enough for engineering because engineering is based on the practical and theory.But entrance test is check your knowledge and your talent.That's entrance test is very important for engg.In entrance all type question asked that's why your command on all engg. subject.Therefore entrance test is very important for any department.
if you have given any entrance exam then you find this is tough or easy.
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2nd November 2010, 08:01 PM
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Is entrance exam alone is enough to test a student in choosing his engineering studies?
No dear is nt enough actually it is a analises part of institution it tell ones correct position.. where u stand .. after that they take several interview.... but entrance exam is meant a lot .... for gettin admission in gd inst .. so go and gv stress on it.. plz inc ur personality
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2nd November 2010, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: Are entrance tests sufficient to measure students' capabilities?

A good question.

I dont think alone entrance test is enough for testing a students capability.

Consider this example. A student writes the paper of 3 hours duration and due to his hard luck or whatever he becomes so nervous that he is not able to solve the questions.

But rewinding back if you see the guy above really worked hard and he could easily solve the questions during the practice session. Its just the pressure/nervousness which really threatens your chances to crack the exam.

Basically an entrance test tests a students speed,intelligence and mental strength. If you able to give 100% in all the three factors then surely you will crack the exam.

But i think that an entrance exam alone should not be the criteria. They should give 50% to entrance exam,30% to interview and 20% to the qualifying board exam. This will guarantee prove your capability as you are being tested in different conditions in different areas

Have You Hear about Bill Gates and Steve Jobs,Einstien. All of these were underestimated in life and were always considered failures as they were not able to perform well in that give time condition. Now you see they are so successful. They have proved that its your talent and hardwork which matters not that puny 3 hours entrance test. Its you whole life that counts.

We cant change the system but we can atleast speculate over this that one day indian education system will really be fair to the students and I think Kabil Sibbal is working on it.

Lets keep our fingers crossed (X)
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3rd November 2010, 06:38 AM
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Is entrance exam alone is enough to test a student in choosing his engineering studies?

No entrance test canot be the only criteria to check the individuals talent.
these entrance test are such that any average students can do better.
There are chances of cjeating too.
So how can we judge through it.
the questions are upto that standard to judge the talent.
It can be good for any studnet and there are cases of nervousness that a good talented student out of pressure is just unable to give out his best performance in entrance test as he could not cope up with th pressue through which he is passing.
Though he has the capability to answer the questions but out of pressure he cannot give his best.
So we cannot say that entrance test are the only criteria to test the students capability
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3rd November 2010, 08:59 AM
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hey.. i read the other replies you have got and they all seemed to come from a greater amount of experience so i wont be giving you any "advice" as such, but what i can give you is a true story.. mine.. i am 18 years old and i appeared for the entrances last year.. and i cleared aieee with a rank good enough for dce but on the day of the iit exam my aunt passed away. i was too distraught to give my exam properly. so there it was . now does that mean that i'm not good enough for it ? anyways im reappearing for it this year hoping i can clear away these ghosts of the past.
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3rd November 2010, 01:24 PM
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I feel that only entrance exams are not the scale to measure the capability or talent,apart from this many institutes have another scales like group discussion and interveiws for the test of the skills other than the academics..and i think that there is no any scale which can measure someone on any particular basis..
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3rd November 2010, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: Are entrance tests sufficient to measure students' capabilities?

it is no doubt true that only one entrance examination can not sufficient to measure the students' capability. actually only written examination and theoretical knowledge is not sufficient to measure talent of student.

but our system is that you have to appear in examination to go far away in your career. one may try to explore his knowledge in practical field. he may try to do something from out of the system. but most of the time these type of student fail in practical life.

so i think do not think about this. just we are servant of the system. there are lots of men who are ready to think about the system. we do not need to think on this. we have to do everything according to our system.

just forget this. you have to appear in entrance examination if you want to go forward. may be it is not sufficient or may be it is sufficient. if you have that quality to do something out of the system then also you may do that. but there is a big risk.

best wishes.
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4th November 2010, 04:10 PM
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hi friend,

About Question:
Firstly I want to ask you the meaning of 'alone' word here, because there are very few exams , which take students through a single test. Otherwise, most of the selection is made through not only entrance test but also a personal interview or second way admission test.

It is true that most of the exam in India are not itself sufficient to judge a student's capabilities. I have seen many examples in my college time when a deserving candidate didnt get what he wanted to get. I have seen the predominace of LUCK word there in many exam. Who will believe that a student who even has not passed his engineering completely and scored a more than 99percentile in GATE exam. And a person who tried it from the 2nd year didnt even clear the exam. The only mistake, which was done by derserving candidate is that he made some questions wrong and his overall attempt was more than 55 Q out of 60. In such situation, no one entertain you even if your more than 30 Q were right because of negative markings. In this case, no one will see that the same person has given more than 30 answers right, but due to some rules(negative marking), he had been deselcted. So we cant say that an entrance exam is a measure to judge a students capabilities.


Now after reading above example , one would obviously say that rules are bad for hard worker sometimes. But if such schemes are not made then it is much obvious that one can clear exam just because of luck. So entrance exam must be there. Entrance Test is a common plateform on to which students prove their efficiency. And even in todays competitive world, you cant imagine any job/college/universities/company take you without this. They not only conduct an entrance exam but also have a interview or discussion-meet before give you seat in their organisation, which is good.
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4th November 2010, 05:09 PM
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dear friend according to your question entrance exam alone is not enough to test a student capability.there may be some students who can perform well in exam but fail in the interviews,g.d etc....At the same time there may be some students who knows how to attempt the answers in the exam but fails in the exam due to tension,hurry,panic,and because of health problems....As there is a negative marking in some exams eventhough the student attempts more answers which are correct but a few answers which are wrong the marks will be lost.at the same time he may be disqualified in that exam.So based on the entrance exam only one can't justify the capabilities of the student.SO apart from the exam the companies are also conducting G.D,personal interviews etc...which is the best way.
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4th November 2010, 09:04 PM
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i think we can't measure a students capability by having entrance tests and all
because any student if it is a dumb or a clever guy can crack the entrance examinations
and i would like to say this
its totally depends
if a guy totally prepared and come to give exam and got the same questions by luckily he will get chance to crack the exam but at the same time who come to have just for a time pass do whatever he feels and byluckily he got it..

to crack any entrance exam you should totally prepared and should totally confident

by this post i just want to say is you should be both confident and totally prepared

without both of them you can't cross or crack exam ....

thanku very much
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4th May 2011, 01:07 PM
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Hi friend, NO . Not at all sufficient to measure student's knowledge only by entrance exam.

But in our indian System, the colleges level seats are allocated only by entrance exam.

so we have prepare for the exam. This system to be changed.
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9th May 2011, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: Are entrance tests sufficient to measure students' capabilities?

I won't say that entrance exams are sufficient to measure student's capabilities but entrance exam should be there as a part of measuring student's capabilities.

Most of the entrance exams are options based.

Because of this, even an average student too, if he is having luck on that day, he is getting through the exam well.

So in order to estimate the exact capabilities of a candidate, interview or direct interaction with the candidate is the good one.

Just by exposing a variety of questions to the candidates, and having clearly observed the way how the candidate answers the questions, one can measure several aspects in a candidate.
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